Catcher in the Rye Why Do They Make Kids Read It
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A lot of people i have talked to call back that this book is not relatable to high school students now. i would have to disagree with that because the book Catcher in the Rye is relatable to high school students at present. Teens chronicle to lacking in motivation in schoolhouse and not fitting in. For example Holden does not feel good enough compared to his roomate and a lot of students always have that one person that they feel less worthy than. Also a lot of students run abroad from the problem or state of affairs that they are dealing with. Like Holden runs away to New York when he gets kicked out of school to avoid the conflit and consequences of his parents. In conclusion the book Catcher in the Rye is relatable to high school students and they should go along reading this in classes because information technology teaches them life lessons. 
I am just finishing up my high school career and i completely relate to holden. Holden hates change and that's what makes growing upwardly so hard for him. The pain of growing up is something that students will e'er be able to chronicle to. Being a teenager is crawly and no ane wants to grow upward to be apart of this terrible, phony world. 
Beh. This book is wasted on today's teenagers. They haven't got ii braincells to rub together to generate some spiritual angst like Holden Caulfield had. They're unable to properly receive a novel like this. Are you lot kidding me? They take no thought of fifty-fifty where they are. They're also busy reading 'Divergence' on their 'KINDLE FIRE'. They float around in a virtual world. The fact is, THEY are the phonies these days. They live in a digital envelope. Come up on, tell me I'grand a liar. Adults accept to live in the real world. That world starts when you start paying your own rent. Any teen who wants respect from me, put down the cellphone-your-mommy-bought-you. 
Whether or not they are worthy of the book, or whether or non they will chronicle to it is unimportant. The point is they should read it. This book isn't my favorite of all time, but my blood brother fabricated me read it three years dorsum and I'thou glad he did. At outset I thought it was a simple book virtually nothing, merely then I found that it was nearly more than than just what was presented to y'all in a 2-D manner. I like the dissecting of Holden Caulfield's character. I also liked how he dissected his ain character along with other's in the volume. Information technology is an interesting read if nothing else and that alone merits a read.
I wish my teenage sons would read CITR. On discovering Holden they may just come to realise that the earth does not centre around 1 individual and that they tin can often be as insufferably feckless every bit he. 
I read this book a few years ago (Freshman year) and institute that I tin can chronicle to Holden and I REALLY liked the book. Every teen guy in high schoolhouse should read it."Anyway, I go on picturing all these little kids playing some game in this large field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's effectually — nobody big, I mean — except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to exercise, I accept to catch everybody if they outset to go over the cliff — I mean if they're running and they don't expect where they're going I have to come up out from somewhere and grab them. That'due south all I'd do all day. I'd but exist the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that'due south the just thing I'd really like to be. I know it's crazy."
Feliks wrote: "The fact is, THEY are the phonies these days. They live in a digital envelope. Come on, tell me I'one thousand a liar. Adults accept to live in the existent world. That earth starts when you start paying your ain rent." That's an attribute of Catcher in the Rye that ever bellyaching me.
Holden has this need to protect children (such as his sis) from losing their innocence and becoming the "phonies" that inhabit the adult world.
Even so, if anything, the refusal to grow upwards and join the adult world (by accepting responsibility and meeting obligations such as paying rent) is far worse. It is a delusional rejection of reality.
So you accept this sincere and honest kid, afraid of the complexities of the adult globe, who decides that being tactful or guarded is 'phony' and that the earth would be a better place if we all remained guileless, carefree children.
Merely it wouldn't! All it takes is a few minutes observing (unremarkably somebody else's) children to realize what a cruel, fell, and dysfunctional world would result.
Feliks wrote: "Beh. This book is wasted on today's teenagers. They haven't got 2 braincells to rub together to generate some spiritual angst like Holden Caulfield had. They're unable to properly receive a novel..." My friend to be honest with you sound like the average bitter erstwhile man, every generation produces. This criticism that you have on the teenager of today.. Every generation has people talking like this about the side by side generation. Well gues who has the most power and influence on the development of the side by side generation; It is patently the generation before that, the parents/teachers/brothers/sisters etc.
The generation of today is for a large function formed past the i that came before it. So if you want to blame someone for it's failures/beliefs yous can blame yourself for not doing plenty.
I myself honestly call back this generation is not that bad. And they could use this volume just too equally the teenagers/young adults that came before the ones of today. I'g sure they accept the capability to understand.
Btw I'm not trying to offend you, this is my opinion on the affair in general.
Fursure wrote: "The generation of today is for a large role formed by the one that came earlier it. So if you lot desire to arraign someone for it'due south failures/beliefs you lot tin can blame yourself for not doing enough..." I disagree Fursure - just then I would; I'm the male parent of 2 teenagers. As one of that generation that came before I tin run across the stark truth that as each generation is succeeded, it is condemned to watch as its children repeat its own failures, deaf to any well-meaning advice that may be offered.
My own father would accept felt this as keenly equally I do, just at least he had avenues for discussion and compromise. Technology has advanced and so fast and then far between the most recent generations that too many teenagers today live in isolation from their parents; often living solitary lives linked to others but through the medium of a phone or computer screen. They do so oblivious to the real consequences and implications of their online actions.
Steam has just equally finer isolated today's youth from its parents equally did the Khmer Rouge.
Serjeant Wildgoose wrote: "Steam has merely as effectively isolated today's youth from its parents as did the Central khmer Rouge. "
Unless Steam has forced your children to choke yous with a plastic bag I recollect you lot are being facetious.
I played video games a lot when I was growing and I like to recollect I turned out fine. I would say on my days off I spent about ten hours a 24-hour interval playing video games or watching Tv. Your proffer that this turned me into a sociopath is ridiculous and completely unfounded.
Maybe you should try appreciating how difficult it is to be a teenager growing up at the moment instead of just deciding yous understand exactly what their problem is.
I think the book is perfect for high schoolhouse readers. There'due south a lot to think nearly after yous read the book and it gets the students debating and talking about the themes in the book. Plus you lot go to see a lot of kids who admittedly dear the book, and other kids who admittedly hate it. Fifty-fifty if they don't relate to it, it's good to become them exposed to the volume since it's so famous and everyone has an stance well-nigh it. Personally I could chronicle to it. I could relate to Holden'southward fear of change, his loneliness, his defoliation about what to do in the future....i love the book!
Feliks wrote: "Beh. This book is wasted on today'southward teenagers. They haven't got ii braincells to rub together to generate some spiritual angst like Holden Caulfield had. They're unable to properly receive a novel..." My experience has been absolutely 100% different from yours Felix. I am at an age now where I'm starting to consider retirement and I work at a job that includes some teenagers and some kids that have simply graduated. I find them ALL, pretty much without exception, to exist grounded, intelligent, wonderful people who love to hash out merely most anything that can be brought up to hash out in the work identify. These kids are shown a lot of respect, and they tend to live up to that respect.
Feliks wrote: "Beh. This volume is wasted on today's teenagers. They oasis't got ii braincells to rub together to generate some spiritual angst similar Holden Caulfield had. They're unable to properly receive a novel..." Ha, ha! Good i Feliks!
The brilliance of the book is Salinger'south ability to put the narrator's thoughts in the reader'southward head. Those thoughts are cynical and lonely, experiences that most readers will be at least a little familiar with, and that'south why the volume is polarizing. I don't understand (simply am interested) why so many readers say that information technology changed their life though, or why someone would read information technology more than than a dozen times. Information technology seems indulgent to vacation within Holden'south head. Chesterton said something about fairy tales that sticks with me... when faced with the proposition that fairy tales scare children, his response was that their fear comes from the universe of their soul, not the story. The fairy tale only provides a definite character to apply that fear to. Further, the purpose of the fairy tale is non the scary dragon itself, merely to introduce St. George who ultimately overcomes. As long equally the fearfulness exists, the fairy tale exposes it, demystifies it, and defeats it.
Catcher in the Rye is a fairy tale. Taking Chesterton perchance more than seriously than he might have intended, the point is to show the power of Holden'due south cynicism, and then demonstrate how to overcome information technology.
Being a teenager is awesome and no one wants to grow up to be apart of this terrible, phony earth. " You're already part of this world at whatsoever age. Skilful luck with the blue pill though. :)
Simply, Feliks, that'south what yous seem to think of anybody, other than yourself.And, Sgt. Wildgoose, office of the reason our generation can't communicate with teens and seem isolated to their parents and grandparents is considering the parental and grandparental generation refuses to embrace the changes and look beyond their own limited sphere of influence.
Technology, the net and all its wonders accept opened up an entire World to explore, people to meet across the borders of our neighborhoods, schools and places of work.
Possibly if our generation was less afraid and less inanely resistant to change we'd realize they aren't the ones isolated — and nosotros'd take some mutual ground to meet on as well as take some credibility when we warn them about actions and consequences out in the Wild Wild Web.
Our children and grandchildren have access to things we couldn't even dream of when we were their age. And too many of us still tin can't, or won't.
My favorite age kids is when they reach that phase where everyone else wishes they could lock 'em in the basement and feed 'em with a slingshot. That's when they've got things to say . . . if they know you'll listen.
Debating "phoniness" with an avatar seems a pointless practice.So is generalizing virtually teenagers and their feel. My feel has been that teenagers are interesting or not in pretty much the same ratio that other folks are interesting or not, when you heed advisedly.
I can just tell you that I am a high school student and I read this book in my own time, out side of school. I absolutely love this book, information technology's ane of my favourite books ever, but the teachers aren't teaching it to us! Why? 
I was exposed to J.D Salinger long before school, even so it wasn't taught to me until now, in higher. I recollect Catcher in the Rye is overrated, only I still like it. I likewise remember it's worth a read for at least twelfth graders. Edward wrote: "Non to argue your point, I would merely point out that this book was written before the advent of juvenile delinquents, greasers, hippies, punks and whatever came adjacent. It's well-nigh our early on rebellion to the dead; that'southward all. Join the diminishing gild. We need new members. ..."
I hadn't thought about it before, but Rules of 48 would be a practiced companion book to read later on CitR.
Edward wrote: "Best of wishes, to you lot, the young and relevant." "Among other things, y'all'll notice that y'all're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by homo behavior. Yous're by no means lonely on that score, you lot'll be excited and stimulated to know. Many, many men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now. Happily, some of them kept records of their troubles. You'll learn from them - if you lot desire to. Just every bit someday, if you lot have something to offer, someone volition larn something from you. It's a beautiful reciprocal arrangement. And it isn't education. It's history. It'south poesy." He stopped and took a big potable out of his highball."
Not and then young anymore, but hopefully still relevant. :)
Feliks wrote: "Beh. This book is wasted on today'due south teenagers. They haven't got 2 braincells to rub together to generate some spiritual malaise like Holden Caulfield had. They're unable to properly receive a novel..." I recall that the youth of today don't know how to read a classic. They desire to read a book like the Catcher like they lookout movies. That is non who the Catcher is for. It is for people who really wanted to know what Salinger idea about WW2. When you take been through a war and "know" what it is and then you learn to tell stories and truth in such a fashion as to be heard but not dead. This is what Salinger did in what I believe is an allegory of war, markets, secret societies and of course corruption. Simply he was so brilliant that the liberal arts dept goes around and smuggly calls this a novel most teenage angst. Since when did you hear a rebellious teenage worry about the ducks in Central Park S? Where exercise they get that idea from. Brilliant! Not!
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Brittany wrote: "I was exposed to J.D Salinger long before schoolhouse, nonetheless it wasn't taught to me until now, in college. I call back Catcher in the Rye is overrated, but I still like it. I also think it'southward worth a read ..." And then it was taught to you lot in college.
Did the instructor mention why Holden was interested in where the ducks go that live in the lagoon @ Fundamental Park South?
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Did she or he discuss why Holden liked Eustacia Vye inThe Render of the Native?
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Did she play Fume Gets In Your Eyes when you got to the carousel? Did she tell yous that Glenn Miller had recorded this and so that it could exist played on the radio to the Germans every bit a propaganda slice? Did she tell yous that Glenn Miller never fabricated it dorsum to us afterwards making the recording at Abbey Route Studios because Mr. Ossenburger must have been praying for another stiff and he was dumped in the pond?
Or how did Holden get a "adept Adept-farewell"? I just wonder if information technology is worth taking a class to augment my understanding of the Catcher or if they are going to simply stick to their story and not really invite any discussion because they are morons?
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Catholic wrote: "Brittany wrote: "I was exposed to J.D Salinger long before school, however it wasn't taught to me until now, in higher. I think Catcher in the Rye is overrated, but I withal like information technology. I as well think i..." Well the class I took was a Banned Books course, so it focused on why these books were banned. We, however, discussed every topic yous asked about. You lot should take a class.... it's swell to exist able to analyze a volume and think it over with different minds.
Brittany wrote: "Well the class I took was a Banned Books class, so it focused on why these books were banned. We, nonetheless, discussed every topic y'all asked about. You should take a class.... information technology's cracking to be able to analyze a book and think information technology over with unlike minds. ...." That would be fun!
This is one of the advantages of being on a book grouping thread is that you can discuss....just it is sometimes nice when the discussion is directed. But as Holden say, he as well likes it when the person digress.
Information technology'due south interesting how frustrating I find Holden, but also how similar I am to him. add together: link encompass
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